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it should. so that small business can ban together to negotiate for lower prices. so that individuals will have access to tax credits to help them pay for private insurance. insurance that's fair and doesn't discriminate against them because they are sick. will fix this crisis in our health care system all on the shoulders of a reformed private system so that never again does a child fall asleep sick in his bed because his country, the most powerful in the world, didn't have the courage to make him well. i yield back. . the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: i'd like to recognize congressman frank wolf of virginia for an unanimous consent question. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. wolf: i rise in opposition to the bill. our nation is going broke. thank you. mr. barton: mr. speaker, i want to recognize a former f.b.i. man from the great state of michigan, mr. rogers, for one minute.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. rogers: thank you, mr. speaker. there are huge consequences to the 85% of americans who have earned their health care in this bill. not only will they get longer wait times, more expensive premiums, but at the end of that with new debts of $1.5 trillion in new spending 18 million americans won't have coverage. but more importantly, there will be another victim. there's nothing more safer than the bond between a mother and a child, that trust, that love, that nurturing when that child is sick. and when a mother goes to the doctor under that 2,000-page bill, that relationship that they enjoy between their patient and their doctor and what that mother wants for that child is no longer sacred because now through the 118 different boards and commissions, their comparative effectiveness research allows the government to force government insurance to ration and deny care. you have violated the most important trust, the most important thing that we have in
the building block and the foundation of the values of this country. that mother, that doctor knows what's best for that child. you will find no compassion in a federal bureaucracy. mr. speaker, i would urge the strong rejection and the protection of that bond between doctor and patient and mother and child. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. waxman: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from colorado, mr. salazar. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. salazar: mr. speaker, i am especially pleased that this bill will help rural america. currently, physicians in rural areas are reimbursed less for medicare than their urban counterparts. h.r. 3962 will rume burs primary care physicians in rural areas, not only to equalize the disparity but to make rural communities more attractive to physicians. most of my district is considered a health professional shortage area. in my district in colorado, we have three counties with only practicing physician.
we have one county with none at all. this bill will increase the number of physicians in all my counties and improve access for 106,000 medicare beneficiaries. this bill will expand insurance coverage to 111,000 currently uninsured citizens in my district. it will help 184,000 low-income families pay for their insurance. our current system is broken and it is time to fix it now. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: mr. speaker, i want to recognize from the pelican state, a member of the committee, congressman scalise of new orleans for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. scalise: i want to thank the ranking member from texas for yielding. i rise in opposition to speaker pelosi's 1,990-page government takeover of health care. weighing in at nearly 20 pounds, this bill comes out to over $530 million of spending per page.
and where does this bill spend that money? well, first of all, it fails the american people. it fails those small businesses and families that are going to have to pay the $730 billion in new taxes in this bill. it fails our seniors who have to deal with over $500 billion in cuts to medicare. and it fails many of president obama's own pledges and promises he made right here on this floor, like when he said if you make less than $250,000 a year you won't pay any new taxes, and i quote, not a dime. in this bill there's over $20 billion of taxes, new taxes, just on people who have no insurance. the president have said multiple times if you like what you have you can keep it. unfortunately, this bill fails the president's promise because it allows the health care czar to take away your insurance even if you like it. it's so bad that even when we brought our amendment that says all members of congress have to abide by this bill, they actually refused a vote on this amendment. we need to defeat this legislation and do real reform. i yield back.
the speaker pro tempore: the chair would announce that the gentleman from texas has 11 1/2 minutes remaining. the gentleman from california 6 1/4. mr. waxman: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to a member of our committee, the gentlelady from ohio, betty sutton. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. ms. sutton: mr. speaker, the american people have been waiting for this day, a day that we will finally pass a health care bill that will work for and with them, that will provide them with access to more aforwardable, quality care -- affordable, quality care, care they can count on. mr. speaker, they have been waiting for us to put an end to the egregious, discriminatory practices of insurance companies who deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions and plays -- place caps on coverage on accessing care they need just when they need it the most. today, we ask to improve the employer-based coverage for 420,000 residents in my
district, and to improve medicare for 107,000 beneficiaries, and to move to close the prescription drug doughnut hole for seniors across this country. yes, mr. speaker, the american people have been waiting, and today we ask for a health care system that will work for and with them. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: could i ask how much time? you said a minute ago but i was not listening. the speaker pro tempore: the chair is shocked. the gentleman from texas has 11 1/2 minutes remaining. the gentleman from california has 5 1/4 minutes remaining. mr. barton: thank you, mr. speaker. i was listening to my distinguished friends on the majority. i would like to recognize a member of the committee, one of our doctors, our physicians, the honorable michael burgess
of lewisville, texas, one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. burgess: i thank the gentleman for yielding. you know, last spring and summer as we got into this debate, america's doctors were pretty clear what they wanted to see if congress was going to undertake health care reform. they wanted to see some relief in the medical justice system. they wanted to see some medical liability reform. they desperately needed a fix to the payment formula in medicare that shows reductions in medicare reimbursement rates every year for as far as the eye could see and the antitrust relief. after all, we are going to ask our doctors to be part of the brave new world of health care reform. the least we can do is talk amongst themselves about the best way to deliver high-quality care at low cost. but what happened? antitrust, not in this bill. s.g.r., we'll take this up some point in the future. medical liability, a smidgen of medical liability reform in this bill. now, texas has done in the last six years what this country needs to realize would be the way to go forward in medical
liability reform. caps on noneconomic damages have worked in the state of texas. you don't have to take my word for it. there are almost 15,000 new physicians that have come to the state of texas since 2003 when this was enacted. 82 counties -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. burgess: have doctors that did not have them before. and e.r. services have seen significant increases. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. burgess: this congress should -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. burgess: i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. waxman: mr. speaker, for unanimous consent request i yield to the gentleman from iowa, mr. boswell. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. boswell: i ask unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks to support this bill and people in my district are waiting and so is my state and our country. mr. waxman: and, mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from virginia, mr. pierriello, for purpose of a
colloquy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. pierriello: mr. chairman, i recognize what this bill does to make health care more affordable. i just want to clarify for the record the maternity care is a required benefit in the essential benefits package for all individual insurance and employer insurance across the country. mr. waxman: will the gentleman yield? yes, that is a correct statement. mr. pierluisi: the prenatal and postnatal care -- mr. pierriello: the prenatal and postnatal care is included? mr. waxman: will the gentleman yield? yes, you are correct in this statement. mr. pierriello: thank you for clarifying this. mr. waxman: i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: is it my turn, mr. speaker? mr. speaker, i want to recognize a member of the committee, a proud grandfather from the great state of arizona, congressman john
shadegg from phoenix for one minute and his granddaughter. mr. shadegg: i wish this was my granddaughter. this is maddie, but maddie believes in freedom. maddie likes america because we have freedom here and maddie believes in patient choice health care. she has co-- asks to come here to say she doesn't want government to take over health care. she wants to keep her plan. maddie knows if this bill passes, she knows her mom's health care will go away and won't be around for five years. if the bill passes then no more health care for her mom because it has to change. maddie wants patient choice. she doesn't want her mom's premiums to go up. she doesn't want her mom's taxes to go up by $730 billion, do you, maddie? they -- she wants america's health insurance companies to have to compete with each other. she believes in choices.
but most of all, she says, don't tax me to pay for health care that you guys want. if you want health care, pay for it yourself, because it's not fair to pass your health care bills on to me and my grandchildren. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. shadegg: thank you, maddie. the speaker pro tempore: the chair is aware to happy have the guest referred to but the gentleman is reminded not to refer to guests of the house. mr. waxman: mr. speaker, that was a remarkable child and a great ventriloquist. i'd like to yield for unanimous consent request to the gentleman from virginia, mr. boucher. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. boucher: meesh, i rise in opposition and request unanimous consent to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. waxman: and at this time
i'd like to yield to the gentleman from the state of maryland, the gentleman from our committee, mr. sarbanes, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. sarbanes: mr. speaker, every day millions of people wake up with a knot in their stomach because they have anxiety and fear that they may lose their health care coverage or they don't have it to begin with. they need this health care bill. we in this chamber -- we in this chamber are conscious of the sweep of history, but the people in my district and millions more across the country have a much less ambitious perspective. they just want to know, is this a good bill, does it make sense, and will it help them and their families? well, if you're a senior, the answer is yes. we're going to begin closing the doughnut hole. if you're a young person, the answer is yes. you can now stay on your parent's policy through age 26. if you're working adult, the answer is yes because we are going to curve the abuses practices of the health insurance industry. so what i want to say to people in my district and to others
is, this is a good bill. it makes sense. and it will help millions of americans across this country. i urge its passage. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. boortbart mr. speaker, i'm proud to yield one minute to another member of the energy and commerce committee, the ranking member of the veterans committee from the hoosier state of indiana, mr. steven buyer, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. buyer: thank you, mr. speaker. in a few days all of us will be going back to our districts. we are going to be celebrating veterans day. many of you are going to be giving speeches, you are going to be throwing your arms around the shoulder, the marine, the sailor, the airman, the coastguardsman. do you throw your arm around them in this bill? you don't. now, when you go home and you give that speech, you can tap into the american character and you can say, americans, go to a land where they've never been to fight for a people they've
never met. they do so at no bounty of their own and they leave freedom in their footsteps. yet, when they get to come home, how does our congress right now treat them? in this 2,000-page bill, we deny them their rights of choice with regard to the health system for which they can go to. can you imagine that? now, i received a pledge, not only from the speaker but also from the leadership, that veterans would be taken care of in this bill. my amendments were denied last night in the rules committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. buyer: how do you deny veterans their choice in this bill? shame on you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired.
the chair would again remind all persons in the gallery that they are guests of the house and any manifestation of approval or disapproval of proceedings or other audible conversation is in violation of the rules of the house and we ask them to respect those rules. mr. waxman: i just want to set the record state, we allow them to keep their veterans -- the speaker pro tempore: how much time is the gentleman yielding? mr. waxman: i yield myself one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. waxman: we allow them to keep their benefits. they may if they choose to go into exchanges but if they don't they keep their benefits. and i'd like to yield to the balance -- >> will the gentleman yield? mr. waxman: up to a minute to the gentleman from iowa, mr. braley, a member of the energy and commerce committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california -- the gentleman from california has the time. . the gentleman does not have the time. the gentleman from california has the time.
the gentleman is asked to respect the rules of the house. the gentleman from california has already yielded time. just abide by the rules of the house, the chair would say. the gentleman from california. how much time did the gentleman yield? mr. waxman: the balance of my time of the one minute and additional time up to a total of one minute to the gentleman from iowa, mr. braley. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. braley: thank you, mr. chairman, for extraordinary leadership on this bill. mr. speaker, i rise today on the third anniversary of my election to congress to urge my colleagues to speak truth to fear and vote for the afford and choices for america health care act. we were elected, my class, to come and change the direction of this country. that's exactly what this bill does. and we just saw a beautiful young child -- i want to tell
you about another beautiful young child, my nephew's son, who at age 18 months was diagnosed with liver cancer, had 2/3 of his liver removed and face as lifetime of expensive medical care. tucker was lucky because both of his parents work full-time. both of them have health care. yet he still has tens of thousands of uninsured medical costs that his parents have to pay for. that is wrong -- what's wrong with health care delivery in this country. that's why we need to reform health care. that's why this bill will do for america what we should have done 100 years ago, provide health care for all americans as a matter of right not as a matter of privilege. that's why i support this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas. mr. bartson: i want to recognize the distinguished ranking member of the financial services committee, the great state of alabama, mr. spencer bachus, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. bachus: thank you, mr.
speaker. mr. speaker, when i joined the army they sent me to fort lewis, washington. one of the first things we did there was get in line to get our haircut. we noticed on the wall there were pictures of four different hair cuts. they told us to choose one ever those hair cuts, get a number, and give it to the barber. we thought this was going to be pretty good. so we all gave him that number for the longest haircut. we all gave our numbers to the barber. and they all cut our hair off. every one ever us. the numbers meant absolutely nothing. when we got back to the barracks we knew who was in charge. we knew who was making the decisions. it wasn't us. the army was making all the decisions. just like thinking you're going to get the haircut you choose, we are promised the right to choose under this bill but the reality is just like the army when the government's in charge, you're not.
this bill is about a new government bureaucracy making all the choices for us. we are americans. america is about freedom. freedom is about making choices. and given the choice i'll always put my faith in the individual not the government. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. waxman: i yield one minute to the gentlelady from the state of california for the purposes of a colloquy, susan davis. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. mrs. davis: thank you, mr. speaker. i appreciate the opportunity to raise this issue on behalf of my colleague from california, congresswoman speier. unfortunately the provisions in section 309 allowing states to enter self-insurance compacts may bring unintended consequences that could threaten long established patient protections. and i know that that is not the intention. i certainly plan on supporting this legislation today but i would ask you for the commitment, mr. chairman, to continue working on the language in section 309 to ensure it does
not impact strong state consumer safeguards such as we have in california. mr. waxman: the gentlelady would yield. i thank you. i encourage you and your staff have committed further to working on these provisions and not allowing health insurers to find loopholes in state laws. mrs. davis: thank you, mr. chairman. the speaker pro tempore: the chair would announce the gentleman from texas has 7 1/2 minutes remaining. the gentleman from california has 1 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. barton: it's my privilege to represent congressman fortenberry of lincoln, nebraska, which today since oklahoma is playing nebraska at lincoln, the largest city in nebraska. mr. fortenberry for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. fortenberry: thank you for the insight. mr. speaker, our health care system must be strengthened. no one disputes the diagnoses. we need to improve health care outcomes for all of americans
and reduce costs, especially for small businesses and families while we protect vulnerable persons. but this bill is a massive risky restructuring of our health care system. why could there not be agreement on reasonable reform such as portable of insurance, buying insurance across state lines, and creating new insurance association models for farmers and families? providing affordable options just like corporations have. i agree, we should promote a health care culture that focuses on wellness and prevention, removes lifetime caps, and expands high-risk pools to help those with pre-existing conditions. however i fear that this 2,000-page bill at $1.3 trillion will fail to reduce cost. simply shift the cost to more government-run health care and reduce health care liberties. mr. speaker, what is at issue now is winning and power not effective reasonable reforms. we have missed an opportunity. i cannot support this bill.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california. mr. waxman: mr. speaker, i still reserve our time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. mr. barton: would my distinguished chairman would like for me to use two or three in a row? mr. waxman: at least a couple more. mr. barton: ok. i would like to recognize the gentleman from lub buck, texas, a recent beneficiary of the best health care system in the world, congressman randy neugebauer, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. neugebauer: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today as a proud cancer survivor. august 1 of this year i was diagnosed with the early stages of prostate cancer. thank goodness i live in america and i was able to sit down with my doctor and work out a treatment plan that would help me be cancer free and stand before you today. thank goodness that i lived in a country where i could go and see my doctor and make choices. and thank goodness i lived in america where i didn't have to get on a list to determine when
i was going to be able to have the surgery so i could lose -- get rid of this cancer. thank goodness i'm not living in canada or europe. the very system our colleagues on the other side of the aisle are trying to model america's health care system out of. i thought about during august about a young lady we named candy that was crying in her wheelchair and begging me to make sure that we didn't turn our health care system in america to the same system that's in canada and europe. she said congressman, with tears running down her eye, don't take away my options. madam speaker, don't take away mindy's option and don't take away my options and others like me. vote down this terrible bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. the gentleman will suspend. the chair will remind all persons in the gallery that they are guests of the house and that any manifestation of approval or disapproval of proceedings or
other audible conversation is in violation of the rules of the house. the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: parliamentary inquiry, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. barton: we respect the ruling and the admonition about members of the gallery, but is it acceptable under the rules for the members of congress to show approval or disapproval of a speech on the floor? the speaker pro tempore: it is not strictly prohibited under the rules. mr. barton: thank you, mr. speaker. we approve the speaker's ruling. mr. speaker, it's now my privilege to represent a member of the state of oklahoma, and it is with great pleasure that i announce the entire oklahoma and nebraska delegation who disagree on the outcome of the football game today are in agreement on this bill. cole. the speaker pro tempore: the
gentleman from oklahoma is recognized for one minute. mr. cole: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. speaker, the oklahomans i represent oppose this bill because they know what it does and what it does not do. they know that this bill will raise taxes not lower them. they know that this bill will grow government, not shrink it. they know that this bill weakens medicare, not strengthens it. they know that this bill destroys jobs, doesn't create any. they know that this bill will force state governments to cut services and raise taxes. and it will put government bureaucrats rather than health care professionals in charge of their health care system. oklahomans know this bill does nothing to reform our tort system. they know it does nothing to give individual purchasers -- individual tax deductions. they know it does nothing to establish national insurance markets and association health plan that would allow small businesses to provide affordable insurance to their employees. oklahomans know the pelosi health care bill is a giant step backward and every oklahoman in congress will vote against this bill. i yield back the balance of my time.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. waxman: mr. speaker. i want to yield to the gentleman from m maryland, mr. cummings. i believe i have a minute -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california has 1 1/2 minutes. the gentleman from texas has 4 1/2 minutes. mr. waxman: i yield the gentleman from maryland, mr. cummings, one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. cummings: thank you very much. this afternoon we have heard a lot of people say we should be do what our constituents say that we should do. i asked them, what do i say to the gentleman in my district is suffering from cancer and who is now trying to choose between eating and paying a high could he payment -- co-payment for chemotherapy. what am i to say to the young writer who for years paid her premiums and then when she got pregnant and had her baby they gave her a present on the way out of the door that she could
not afford. a $22,000 bill. what do i say to the lady who suffered from breast cancer in my district and when she lost her job, lost her insurance, could not get insurance, could not get it. because of something called pre-existing conditions. i would say to all those folks who are saying that we do not need this and must not do this, we have a moral authority to our fellow citizens, a moral authority. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: i would like to yield one minute to one ever our pro-life leaders, the honorable chris smith of new jersey, one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. smith: has an opportunity to significantly limit funding of abortion in a manner that replicates the hyde amendment and applies it to the two new massive government health programs created in the pending bill. the public option and the
affordability credit program. the stupak-pitts amendment ensures that pro-life americans will not be forced to fund, enable, or facilitate the killing of unborn children and the wounding of their mothers. supermajorities, more than 67%, oppose public funding of abortion. protecting vulnerable unborn children and women from the insidious violence of abortion is the human right cause of our time. so please, let's not cross over our trivialize the fact that abortion dismembers, decapitates, starve to death, or chemically poisons innocent babies. and if the abortion act itself euphemistically called choice can in no way be construed to be compassionate, benign, nurturing, or health care. abortion is violence against women and children. it is neither health care nor reform. support the stupak-pitts amendment. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from california. mr. waxman: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california continues to reserve. the gentleman from texas. mr. barton: parliamentary inquiry before i recognize mr. hensarling. who has the right to close this part of the debate? chairman waxman or the ranking minority member the right to close? the speaker pro tempore: there's only one overall right to close and that will be the majority manager. mr. barton: ok. i'd like to recognize congressman jeb hensarling of the great state of texas for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. hensarling: mr. speaker, government-run health care is government-rationed health care. today in america when our loved ones need health care, they wait hours, maybe days. but in britain, in canada they wait weeks, months. perhaps even a year. mr. speaker, since i have been age 5 i have gone fishing with my father. those are moments i treasure. but 15 years ago he went to see his doctor about a chest pain. 48 hours